{"id":35218,"date":"2025-11-06T14:52:02","date_gmt":"2025-11-06T18:52:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/?p=35218"},"modified":"2025-11-06T14:52:02","modified_gmt":"2025-11-06T18:52:02","slug":"ev-interest-waning-honda-is-going-all-in-to-be-the-next-tesla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/2025\/11\/ev-interest-waning-honda-is-going-all-in-to-be-the-next-tesla","title":{"rendered":"EV interest waning? Honda is going all-in to be the next Tesla"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\"><em>Tokyo<\/em>\u00a0\u2014 The U.S. auto industry is navigating tricky roads as manufacturers face stalled electric vehicle demand, rising tariff costs, and intense competition. But Honda Motor Co., which counts the United States as its biggest customer with 40% of global sales and operates four manufacturing plants in three states employing over 23,000 associates, is determined to maintain a steady course.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">In a wide-ranging interview at Honda headquarters in Tokyo, CEO Toshihiro Mibe said that the company remains on course for a fully electric future like Tesla Inc. and will continue to prioritize the United States for manufacturing investment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Among legacy automakers, Honda has been \u2014 along with General Motors Co. \u2014 the most forceful in its commitment to ending the production of internal combustion engines, a challenge the company calls its Second Founding. Long one of the world\u2019s premier ICE manufacturers \u2014 both on-road and on the racetrack \u2014 the brand gave a glimpse of its electric future this week in showcasing three near-production, so-called O-Series models at the Japan Mobility Show here.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094784007-honda-plan-0-seriessaloon.jpg?width=660&amp;height=372&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"Tokyo - The radical O Series Saloon wowed on stage at the Japan Mobility Show, but it will be made in Ohio for the US market.\" width=\"525\" height=\"296\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Tokyo &#8211; The radical O Series Saloon wowed on stage at the Japan Mobility Show, but it will be made in Ohio for the US market.<\/em><\/div>\n<p><em>Henry Payne, The Detroit News<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Honda\u2019s push comes despite dramatic changes in the U.S. political environment, with EV sales slowing, Congress\u2019s elimination of the $7,500 tax break, the Trump Administration\u2019s rollback of emission regulations, and billionaire global warming financier Bill Gates\u2019 dismissal of a climate crisis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cElectrification now is a little bit different from what we were expecting before,\u201d said Mibe, who has previously projected that Honda would end ICE sales by 2040. \u201cMaybe (we\u2019ll see a) five-year delay as compared to our first expectations. And probably that means from 2040 on, the electrification will have to go faster. But as long as humankind has not abandoned efforts for global warming innovation, we have to keep up with our responsibility.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Honda\u2019s mobility presentation at the Japan Show was striking for its parallels to Elon Musk\u2019s companies \u2014 not just in EVs, but in its commitment to a moral mission statement and the pursuit of reusable rockets.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094783007-honda-plan-mibedebut-0-series.jpg?width=660&amp;height=372&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"Honda Motor Co. CEO Toshihiro Mibe introduces the electric 0 Series lineup at the Japan Mobility Show in Tokyo.\" width=\"506\" height=\"285\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"Honda Motor Co. CEO Toshihiro Mibe introduces the electric 0 Series lineup at the Japan Mobility Show in Tokyo.\" data-c-credit=\"Henry Payne, The Detroit News\">\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Tokyo &#8211; Honda CEO Toshihiro Mibe introduces the electric 0 Series lineup at the Japan Mobility Show.<\/em><\/div>\n<p><em>Henry Payne, The Detroit News<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cBefore making a profit, there is one important condition: whether something is \u2018right\u2019 or \u2018not,\u2019\u201d read a slide in Honda\u2019s corporate presentation on rocket development. \u201cWe think \u2018What can I do for society and for others?\u2019 Since its founding, Honda has driven technological innovation and product development fueled by this very passion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">That passion, says Honda, has driven its Second Founding to address global warming. The commitment dovetails with Honda\u2019s belief that electric motor-driven technology is superior to ICE, and that customers will ultimately choose the former.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094782007-honda-plan-mibelft.jpg?width=660&amp;height=497&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"Honda CEO Toshihiro Mibe answers a question from media at Honda HQ.\" width=\"507\" height=\"382\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"Honda CEO Toshihiro Mibe answers a question from media at Honda HQ.\" data-c-credit=\"Sam Abuelsamid, Telemetry\">\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Tokyo &#8211; Honda CEO Toshihiro answers a question from media at Honda HQ.<\/em><\/div>\n<p><em>Sam Abuelsamid, Telemetry<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Both Japan and U.S. customers have proven resistant to EVs, but the company has forged ahead with electrification plans. The commitment is not dissimilar to that of Toyota Motor Corp., which aimed to pioneer hybrid vehicles 25 years ago with the Toyota Prius. Once a nerdy outlier, Prius today is the halo car to a hybrid-focused model lineup.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cHonda has a long-term plan, but they are smart enough not to sacrifice their current profitable ICE vehicles to get there,\u201d said iSeeCars.com Senior Analyst Karl Brauer. \u201cUnlike some other automakers \u2014 Porsche, Dodge \u2014 you haven\u2019t heard Honda say they are sunsetting ICE models to make EVs. Honda is going to make ICE Civics and CR-Vs as long as there is demand.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Indeed, Honda gave the media a sneak peek of its next-generation midsize sedan and SUV platforms \u2014 the basis for its best-selling ICE Civic, Accord, and CR-V models \u2014 at its Toshigi Proving Grounds.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094777007-honda-plan-nextgencivicplatform.jpg?width=660&amp;height=372&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"At the Toshigi Proving Grounds, Honda's next-generation platform for Civic and Accord ICE sedans.\" width=\"504\" height=\"284\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"At the Toshigi Proving Grounds, Honda's next-generation platform for Civic and Accord ICE sedans.\" data-c-credit=\"Henry Payne, The Detroit News\">\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Toshigi Proving Grounds &#8211; Honda&#8217;s next-generation platform for Civic and Accord ICE sedans.<\/em><\/div>\n<p><em>Henry Payne, The Detroit News<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Tesla has been the pioneer of EV technology, accounting for 40% of U.S. EV sales. But Honda is determined to catch Tesla with its radical O Series vehicles. First up, the O Series SUV in 2026, which looks like something that drove off the set of a &#8220;Blade Runner&#8221; sci-fi movie. It will be followed by the O Series Saloon, which looks like a Lamborghini sedan, and is due late next year. The third, the O Series Alpha, debuted on Honda\u2019s sprawling stage here in Tokyo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">The SUV and Saloon will be produced in Marysville, Ohio, which Honda has dubbed its EV Hub. The sub-compact \u00a0Alpha will be made in India for Asian markets.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">The 43-year-old facility is in the midst of a major manufacturing upgrade, so it has the flexibility to produce EVs, hybrid, and ICE vehicles. The reconstruction is part of a $26 billion Honda investment in its U.S. operations.<\/p>\n<aside id=\"gnt_atomsnc\" class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_anc\" data-g-r=\"lazy\" data-gl-method=\"loadAnc\" aria-label=\"Newsletter signup form\">\n<div class=\"label\" hidden=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"message\">\n<div class=\"title\">Get the\u00a0<span class=\"highlight\">Michigan Politics<\/span>\u00a0newsletter in your inbox.<\/div>\n<p class=\"description\">Washington and Lansing, red and blue, we&#8217;ve got your government covered.<\/p>\n<div class=\"frequency\">Delivery: Daily<\/div>\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"input-container populated\"><input autocomplete=\"off\" name=\"email\" required=\"\" type=\"email\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"clickable\"><\/div>\n<p><label>Your Email<\/label><\/div>\n<div id=\"bar\">\n<div class=\"highlight\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"progress-primary\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"progress-secondary\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cThe future is to bring something to market that people are really going to be excited about,\u201d said Lance Woelfer, vice president for North American sales, who was in Tokyo for the Japan Show. \u201cWe showed these vehicles to our dealers not long ago and got a tremendous response. They are excited by the new design theme and how we differentiate our design from others.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094834007-honda-plan-0-seriesplatform.jpg?width=660&amp;height=372&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"Honda's O Series Saloon will be built on the brand's first electric architecture.\" width=\"504\" height=\"284\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Toshigi Proving Grounds &#8211; Honda&#8217;s O Series Saloon will be built on the brand&#8217;s first electric architecture. <\/em><\/div>\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Henry Payne, The Detroit News<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">O Series production in Ohio comes as the Trump Administration has erected a 15% trade barrier to Japanese imports and 25% tariffs against Canadian imports, where Honda makes some of its Civic sedan and CR-V SUV models.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cFlexible, non-union manufacturing is Honda\u2019s sweet spot,\u201d said analyst Brauer. \u201cIt costs more up front than saying you\u2019re just going to build, say, a single platform EV. But in the long run, they can build what the market demands, and it doesn\u2019t risk a plant with no capacity, which is\u00a0<em>really<\/em>\u00a0expensive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Mibe was blunt about where Honda&#8217;s investment will be in the new tariff era: \u201cWe did consider a large investment for EV for Canada, but we&#8217;ve already decided to freeze this. For us, the U.S. market is the main market, and &#8230; \u00a0we are making yearly investment of $2.5 billion into the U.S., which we plan to continue into the future as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">In addition to the Marysville line upgrades, Honda has begun plans to remake production of its East Liberty, Ohio, plant for more flexible production. That flexibility matches Honda\u2019s flexible approach as it transitions to all-electric. With EV sales challenges, Mibe said the company is focused on hybrids.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094779007-honda-plan-nextgencrvplatform.jpg?width=660&amp;height=372&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"At its Toshigi Proving Grounds, Honda's next-gen mid-size SUV platform for the CR-V.\" width=\"507\" height=\"286\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"At its Toshigi Proving Grounds, Honda's next-gen mid-size SUV platform for the CR-V.\" data-c-credit=\"Henry Payne, The Detroit News\">\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\">Toshigi Proving Grounds &#8211; Honda&#8217;s next-gen mid-size SUV platform for the CR-V.<\/div>\n<p>Henry Payne, The Detroit News<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cI believe that (hybrid) volume would continue to increase until 2030,\u201d said the CEO. \u201cCurrently, we (sell) 0.8 million units (per year). Our prospect is that the number would go over 2 million units by 2030. The thing is, hybrids are not going to give us complete carbon neutrality . . . so the question is: how far can we continue using them? What we do after that will really depend on what the U.S. regulations might do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Though there are subcompact EVs in the U.S. market like the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Bolt, Mibe does think Alpha is viable here.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\"><strong>\u201c<\/strong>Unless the battery cost is significantly lowered, the total cost of the EV cannot be reduced significantly. That&#8217;s the reality,\u201d he said. \u201cWe are aware that there is a need to provide affordable EVs for the North American market, (but) the 0 Series Alpha size is probably too small.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Honda and performance cars have been synonymous for decades, including the S2000 roadster and Acura NSX. But don\u2019t expect an EV sports car anytime soon.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cI&#8217;m afraid that we will not have any option for you to drive an EV sports car,\u201d said Mibe, though he is bullish on hybrid performance cars like the Prelude. Honda\u2019s hybrid Formula One drivetrain will power the Aston Martin team next year.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094776007-honda-plan-execs.jpg?width=660&amp;height=424&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"Tokyo - Honda execs (from l to r) Noriya Kaihara (Executive VP), Toshihro Mibe (CEO), and Kazuhiro Takizawa (CEO, American Honda) at Honda HQ.\" width=\"528\" height=\"339\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"Tokyo - Honda execs (from l to r) Noriya Kaihara (Executive VP), Toshihro Mibe (CEO), and Kazuhiro Takizawa (CEO, American Honda) at Honda HQ.\" data-c-credit=\"Sam Abuelsamid, Telemetry\">\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Tokyo &#8211; Honda execs (from l to r) Noriya Kaihara (Executive VP), Toshihro Mibe (CEO), and Kazuhiro Takizawa (CEO, American Honda) at Honda HQ.<\/em><\/div>\n<p><em>Sam Abuelsamid, Telemetry<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cWe will be driving (with Aston Martin) our power unit \u2014 half of which will be engine, half (from) electrification,\u201d he said. \u201cThis is the opportunity for us to demonstrate on electrification technology.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">As a stepping stone to its O Series models, Honda collaborated with GM to make its $50,000 Prologue EV. Mibe said such partnerships will be common in the electric era.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cOur first objective in collaborating with GM was to expand the volume so that we could reduce the cost,\u201d the Honda CEO said. \u201cWe are continuing to talk with GM. Software development cost is very high. The more partners we work with, the more we can allocate all the development costs, and then all the costs can be absorbed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">In addition to EVs, Mibe and North American President Kazuhiro Takizawa also pointed to Honda\u2019s off-road and performance vehicles as a source of growth.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/gcdn\/authoring\/authoring-images\/2025\/11\/04\/PDTN\/87094926007-honda-plan-prelude.jpg?width=660&amp;height=372&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"Toshigi Proving Grounds - So excited is Honda CEO Toshiro Mibe for the Prelude Hybrid that he has already bought his personal copy.\" width=\"513\" height=\"289\" \/><\/figure>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"Toshigi Proving Grounds - So excited is Honda CEO Toshiro Mibe for the Prelude Hybrid that he has already bought his personal copy.\" data-c-credit=\"Henry Payne, The Detroit News\">\n<div class=\"gnt_pg_img_cap\"><em>Toshigi Proving Grounds &#8211; So excited is Honda CEO Toshiro Mibe for the Prelude Hybrid that he has already bought his personal copy.<\/em><\/div>\n<p><em>Henry Payne, The Detroit News<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cWith some models, like (Civic\u2019s track-focused) Type R we have a sports image,\u201d said Takizawa. \u201cWe really want to enhance our . . . off-road capability for light-truck models. Electrification is not our only challenge. We&#8217;re challenging in this field, too.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Brauer was at the Specialty Equipment Market Association show in Las Vegas when the Japan Show opened: \u201cIt\u2019s telling that, the same week Honda is previewing O Series EVs in Tokyo, they are also rolling out new parts from Honda Racing Corporation in Vegas to complement their gas-powered Passport and Civic models.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\"><em>Henry Payne is auto critic for The Detroit News. Find him at hpayne@detroitnews.com or Twitter @HenryEPayne.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tokyo\u00a0\u2014 The U.S. auto industry is navigating tricky roads as manufacturers face stalled electric vehicle demand, rising tariff costs, and intense competition. But Honda Motor Co., which counts the United States as its biggest customer with 40% of global sales and operates four manufacturing plants in three states employing over 23,000 associates, is determined to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,87],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35218"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35218"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35218\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":35219,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35218\/revisions\/35219"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35218"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35218"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35218"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}