{"id":29936,"date":"2022-10-20T09:36:56","date_gmt":"2022-10-20T13:36:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/?p=29936"},"modified":"2022-10-20T09:36:56","modified_gmt":"2022-10-20T13:36:56","slug":"heavy-duty-trucks-are-fueling-the-ev-transition-when-will-they-get-electrified","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/2022\/10\/heavy-duty-trucks-are-fueling-the-ev-transition-when-will-they-get-electrified","title":{"rendered":"Heavy-duty trucks are fueling the EV transition. When will they get electrified?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">The Detroit Three automakers are pushing toward an electrified future, but they\u2019re not yet putting their gas and diesel-powered heavy-duty trucks on the back burner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">After all, the profitable sales of these fuel-guzzling vehicles are funding the expensive transition to electric vehicles, which promise zero emissions and freedom from high gas prices. \u00a0General Motors Co., Ford Motor Co. and Stellantis NV over the last several weeks have revealed HD truck updates for next year, but don&#8217;t expect electrified versions of these beefy pickups anytime soon.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"gnt_em_img_i\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gannett-cdn.com\/presto\/2022\/10\/19\/PDTN\/ffe605cb-d186-4ea2-aa25-07475d6063ec-thumbnail_HDtruck_FordF250-Thomas.jpg?width=980&amp;height=552&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"Ross Thomas of East Jordan, Michigan, with his 2015 Ford F-250. The V8-powered truck weighs 10,000 pounds and has a range of about 280 miles when towing his camper, more than a comparable electric truck would offer.\" data-g-r=\"lazy\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"Ross Thomas of East Jordan, Michigan, with his 2015 Ford F-250. The V8-powered truck weighs 10,000 pounds and has a range of about 280 miles when towing his camper, more than a comparable electric truck would offer.\" data-c-credit=\"Henry Payne, The Detroit News\"><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">&#8220;This will be the dead last segment that it&#8217;s going to happen to because they are the most demanding and it would be the most taxing on the electrical system,&#8221; said Ivan Drury, director of insights for Edmunds.com Inc., a vehicle information website. The batteries needed to tow the thousands of pounds HD customers demand might be available, but they cost more and offer less range than gas and diesel powertrains.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Automakers \u201cwould probably like to be able to say that \u2018we can offer 300 miles of range when you&#8217;re towing,\u2019 and also there\u2019s the cost,\u201d said Sam Abuelsamid, principal research analyst leading Guidehouse Insights. \u201cYou can go buy a 50\/60\/$70,000 HD truck that&#8217;ll tow 15\/20,000 pounds for 5-600 miles. Those trucks with those 200 kilowatt-hour batteries, one consistent aspect of those, they all cost $100,000.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"gnt_em_img_i\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gannett-cdn.com\/presto\/2022\/09\/26\/PDTN\/af4560a5-8054-49f5-af20-71de74b792af-MY24_Chevrolet_HD_HC_AP3_0960.JPG?width=980&amp;height=654&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gannett-cdn.com\/presto\/2022\/09\/26\/PDTN\/af4560a5-8054-49f5-af20-71de74b792af-MY24_Chevrolet_HD_HC_AP3_0960.JPG?width=1960&amp;height=1308&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp 2x\" alt=\"Trucks like the Chevrolet Silverado HD produce big profits that are helping to fund the Detroit Three automakers' shift to electric vehicles.\" data-g-r=\"lazy\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"Trucks like the Chevrolet Silverado HD produce big profits that are helping to fund the Detroit Three automakers' shift to electric vehicles.\" data-c-credit=\"Chevrolet\"><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"gnt_ar_b_h2\">EV trucks versus HD trucks<\/h2>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">The $110,595\u00a0Edition 1 Hummer EV pickup, for example, has a large 200-plus kilowatt-hour battery with a range of 329 miles, according to documents filed with the Environmental Protection Agency as previously reported by\u00a0<a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.caranddriver.com\/news\/a39049358\/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-pickup-epa-specs\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">Car and Driver<\/a>. The Hummer can tow up to 7,500 pounds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">On the Chevrolet side, the Silverado EV RST can tow 10,000 pounds and will cost $105,000. Chevy hasn\u2019t released the kilowatt-hour capacity of the Silverado EV.\u00a0By comparison, the<a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/story\/business\/autos\/general-motors\/2022\/09\/26\/gm-reveals-2024-silverado-hd\/69519599007\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">\u00a0recently revealed<\/a> 2024 Silverado 2500 can tow up to 22,500 pounds when packaged with a 6.6-liter turbo-diesel V-8 engine. Chevrolet hasn\u2019t released prices for the new Silverado HD.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">During the January 2022 reveal of the electric Silverado, GM CEO Mary Barra said the automaker will electrify heavy-duty vehicles like light-duty vehicles by 2035: \u201cThese all-electric HD trucks will be engineered to deliver effortless heavy-duty hauling and towing, while offering customers amazing new features and range needed to get the toughest jobs done.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\"><a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/story\/business\/autos\/ford\/2022\/10\/05\/ford-again-hikes-starting-price-on-all-electric-f-150-lightning\/69543008007\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">Ford just upped the price<\/a> of its 2023 electric F-150 Lightning Pro, geared toward commercial customers, by $5,000 to $51,974. A Lightning with a standard battery pack gets 98 kWh of capacity to go 240 miles on a charge. The Lightning with an extended-range pack with 131 kWh of capacity gets 320 miles on a charge. With an optional max trailer tow package, the Lightning can tow 10,000 pounds with the larger battery and 7,700 pounds with the standard size.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Ford hasn&#8217;t yet revealed pricing or towing capabilities on its recently\u00a0<a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/story\/business\/autos\/ford\/2022\/09\/27\/ford-reveals-next-gen-super-duty-lineup-2023\/69519393007\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">revealed gas and diesel-powered 2023 Super Duty lineup<\/a>, but the automaker is shooting for &#8220;unparalleled capability&#8221; on gooseneck towing, fifth-wheel towing, conventional towing, pintle hitch towing and payload capacity.\u00a0<a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ford.com\/trucks\/super-duty\/features\/towing\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">The 2022 Super Duty<\/a>\u00a0can tow 21,000 pounds for conventional and 37,000 pounds for gooseneck.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">At an event revealing the Super Duty earlier this month, Ford CEO Jim Farley told media as reported by the<a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autonews.com\/sales\/heavy-duty-trucks-funding-evs-last-line?utm_source=dlvr.it&amp;utm_medium=twitter\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">\u00a0Automotive News<\/a>: \u201cIf you\u2019re pulling 10,000 pounds, an electric truck is not the right solution. And 95% of our customers tow more than 10,000 pounds. This is a really important segment for our country and it will probably go hydrogen fuel cell before it goes pure electric.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Hydrogen fuel cells could be used to convert larger products like heavy-duty trucks to zero-emissions products since fuel cells offer longer range and the fuel-cell system is lighter than a battery, but the use of fuel cells would also require an infrastructure network of charging stations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">&#8220;For customers that want to tow, you could have fuel cell, but again, that is going to depend on the fueling infrastructure being there,&#8221; Abuelsamid said. &#8220;If the fueling infrastructure isn&#8217;t there, customers aren&#8217;t going to buy &#8217;em, even if they can tow them long distances.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\"><a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/story\/business\/autos\/chrysler\/2022\/02\/08\/ram-teases-electric-1500-pickup-launches-website-revolution\/6695578001\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">Ram has teased<\/a>\u00a0an electrified version of its light-duty truck and said it will have a full portfolio of electrified vehicles in most segments by 2025 and all segments by 2030.\u00a0<a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/story\/business\/autos\/chrysler\/2022\/09\/29\/ram-rebel-trim-heavy-duty-2500-pickup-truck\/69522932007\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">The Stellantis NV truck brand in September<\/a> announced it was adding a Rebel trim option to the 2023 Ram 2500 HD lineup. \u00a0The truck&#8217;s maximum tow limit is 16,870 pounds.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"gnt_ar_b_h2\">What customers think<\/h2>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">HD drivers will be tough to turn into EV buyers, Edmunds&#8217; Drury says, because they are taking a risk on capability, which is a tough gamble for the commercial customers relying on their fleets to get the job done.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">&#8220;With these consumers,&#8221; Drury said, &#8220;it&#8217;s still go with what you know.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Fleet managers also look at the overall cost of ownership, so they will want to know that transitioning &#8220;is actually going to get the job done and save money,&#8221; he said. &#8220;And right now, I think that would be kind of a hard thing for a lot of them to even make pencil out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"gnt_em_img_i\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gannett-cdn.com\/presto\/2022\/10\/19\/PDTN\/8dad1c07-dedc-4b04-ab3a-dd530b60d267-HDtruck_FordF250-Ross-Bonnie-Thomas-camper.jpg?width=980&amp;height=552&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gannett-cdn.com\/presto\/2022\/10\/19\/PDTN\/8dad1c07-dedc-4b04-ab3a-dd530b60d267-HDtruck_FordF250-Ross-Bonnie-Thomas-camper.jpg?width=1960&amp;height=1104&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp 2x\" alt=\"Ross and Bonnie Thomas of East Jordan, Michigan, use their V8-powered, 2015 Ford F-250 to tow their camper.\" data-g-r=\"lazy\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"Ross and Bonnie Thomas of East Jordan, Michigan, use their V8-powered, 2015 Ford F-250 to tow their camper.\" data-c-credit=\"Henry Payne, The Detroit News\"><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Ross Thomas, 80, and his wife Bonnie of East Jordan, Michigan, tow their camper with a V-8-powered, 2015 Ford F-250 that weighs 10,000 pounds. They live in the East Jordan City Tourist Park during the summer, then commute to warmer climates in Texas and Florida during the winter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">They make their estimated 20-hour, 1,300-mile journey getting 8 mpg with a 35-gallon gas tank \u2014 or a range of 280 miles between five-minute fill-ups.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Heavy-duty EV trucks are in their infancy with manufacturers like Bollinger making Class 3-6 chassis and GM not planning electrified HD versions of its pickups until the next decade.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cThis is not an EV,\u201d said GMC President Duncan Aldred when he introduced the\u00a0<a class=\"gnt_ar_b_a\" href=\"https:\/\/www.detroitnews.com\/story\/business\/autos\/general-motors\/2022\/10\/06\/truck-wars-gmc-sierra-hd-family-gets-beefier-techier-sexier\/69539248007\/\" data-t-l=\":b|e|inline click|${u}\">all-new Sierra 2500 HD<\/a>\u00a0this month with its tried-and-true, 6.6-liter Duramax turbo-diesel V-8. \u201cThe Sierra Heavy Duty will become an EV in time, but it will be toward the end of the 2035 transition.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Real-world experience with EV pickups is limited with new entries like the Ford F-150 Lightning and Rivian R1T first to market. But the towing capabilities of the Lightning are not encouraging to HD owners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">A recent tow test by truck test site TFLTrucks.com with a 6,000-pound trailer behind the Lightning found range degradation of 70% to just 95 miles \u2014 a problem for long-distance hauls. While diesel and gas engines also suffer range degradation when towing, they offer more reliable range and refueling infrastructure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Ross Thomas typically gets about 280 miles of range with his V-8-powered F250 \u2014 and quick refueling. Drain a Lightning\u2019s battery after 95 miles and it will take an hour to fill it full of electrons at a DC fast charger.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">EV range limitations are an issue for Randy Hartman of Columbus, Ohio, too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Hartman\u2019s company, Winning Edge Series, offers trackside support for sportscar racers. For example, he used his 2011 Ram 3500 Dually HD Class 3 pickup to tow a pair of race cars 1,110 miles from Columbus to Road Atlanta Raceway in Braselton, Georgia, this October.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cIt would have taken me forever to tow my 28-foot trailer over the mountains with an electric truck,\u201d said Hartman, 63. His Ram is stuffed with a 7.2-liter diesel and gets 300 miles between fill-ups at 11 mpg.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Jeremy Ingram knows electric vehicles \u2014 his 386 Powersports in Rochester Hills is the exclusive Michigan dealer for Volcon EV motorbikes \u2014 but he prefers gas trucks to haul them to customers and sporting events.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cFor the loads we carry we need gas,\u201d said Ingram who owns a fleet of Ford, Ram, and Chevy HDs. \u201cYou know Michigan. You put a load on batteries \u2014 and then add the cold weather \u2014 and they will die in half the time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">His brawny Ram 5500, Ford F-550, Chevy 4500 dually pickups, for example, do heavy lifting, including 15,000-pound flat beds that take multiple bikes to customers around the Midwest. They also do double duty \u2014 along with a GMC Sierra, Ford F-250, and Ford F-350 cube truck \u2014 in servicing customers with Ingram\u2019s contracting firm, Ingram Roofing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Ingram worries the short life of battery packs would also change his business model. \u201cI don\u2019t want to buy a fleet of electric trucks not knowing their lifespan,\u201d he said, citing a 1996 diesel Ford F-350 he uses that\u2019s still going strong. \u201cI\u2019d have to go to a lease fleet.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"gnt_em gnt_em_img\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"gnt_em_img_i\" src=\"https:\/\/www.gannett-cdn.com\/presto\/2022\/10\/19\/PDTN\/717956ec-45f4-40f2-bea1-8e7932e7c107-thumbnail_HDtruck_MichAsphalt-FordF800.jpg?width=980&amp;height=552&amp;fit=crop&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp\" alt=\"At Michigan Asphalt Paving, foreman Tim Davidson's fleet includes is a 1995 Ford F800 Class 6 truck that is 27 years young and still hauling up to 45,000 pounds of aggregate daily. To Davidson, electric vehicles are &quot;a big waste of time and money.&quot;\" data-g-r=\"lazy\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"gnt_em_img_ccw gnt_em_img_ccw__cap gnt_em_img_ccw__crd\" data-c-caption=\"At Michigan Asphalt Paving, foreman Tim Davidson's fleet includes is a 1995 Ford F800 Class 6 truck that is 27 years young and still hauling up to 45,000 pounds of aggregate daily. To Davidson, electric vehicles are &quot;a big waste of time and money.&quot;\" data-c-credit=\"Henry Payne, The Detroit News\"><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">For Michigan Asphalt Paving foreman Tim Davidson in Birmingham, it\u2019s not the range \u2014 it\u2019s the expense and logistics that are insurmountable obstacles to going electric.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">His company serves a variety of paving needs in the Metro Detroit area with a herd of diesel-powered vehicles from dump trucks to Caterpillar track loaders to the semis that transport them. One of the vehicles in his fleet is a 1995 Ford F800 Class 6 truck (GVWR: 26,000 pounds) that is 27 years young and still hauling up to 45,000 pounds of aggregate daily.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cElectrics are a big waste of time and money,\u201d said Davidson as he dug up a driveway with his Cat, then dumped it into the back of the hulking Ford. \u201cReliability is a real issue for me. What if I get stuck on the way to a job?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">His fleet is looked after by a diesel service company and his fuel is delivered to tanks on his property where he fills up every night. Building on-site electric capacity to power his trucks would be costly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">Bollinger Motors in Oak Park is the only manufacturer making a Class 4 electric truck (GVWR: 14,001-16,000 pounds). While assembling battery-powered trucks with 100-mile range to suit contractors like Michigan Asphalt, Bollinger is counting on the billions of dollars in the federal Inflation Reduction Act to help reduce the costs. Under the IRA, a Bollinger buyer would be eligible for a 30% tax credit up to $40,000.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">\u201cCommercial fleets need a cost-competitive alternative to traditional ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles, and these credits, along with Bollinger\u2019s aggressive efforts to deliver a quality product with a lower total cost of ownership, make EVs a more affordable and viable option than their ICE counterparts,\u201d commercial sales director Ed Burke told Highways Today.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gnt_ar_b_p\">But for HD customers who need the dexterity of trucks for long and short hauls, EVs are a non-starter.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Detroit Three automakers are pushing toward an electrified future, but they\u2019re not yet putting their gas and diesel-powered heavy-duty trucks on the back burner. After all, the profitable sales of these fuel-guzzling vehicles are funding the expensive transition to electric vehicles, which promise zero emissions and freedom from high gas prices. \u00a0General Motors Co., [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29936"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29936"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29936\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29937,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29936\/revisions\/29937"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29936"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29936"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/henrypayne.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29936"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}